God and Humans

(On Ducks and Timespace)

Cyrill

If one were to be reborn as a duck for example, then they'd walk like a duck, talk like a duck, and pretty much be a duck. Biology is limiting, but it's a limitation we don't have to be bound by. Some of us with more advanced brains(like humans/celestial beings) really have the ability to imagine something greater than ourselves. As for "God", who should really care? What makes "God" any more special than the rest of us? Why do we need such a concept to exist?

John Dishwasher

That's why I decided to share this essay. Because I think it lets people who wonder "why we need such a concept to exist" agree with people who want such a concept in their lives. It seemed like a definition to me that both groups could agree on. You might be a better judge of that, though. Was the definition acceptable to you?

Cyrill

I find it perfectly acceptable. Not sure I understand or agree with everything as you have written it(I'm not you, hard to see what's in your head), but I can say this much: You'll never please everyone.

A "scientific path to god" is an interesting idea, though perhaps it's a bit like exploring the moon; educational and exciting, but you're still visiting a dead rock floating in space.

I'm certainly not saying "God" doesn't exist, I'm just saying you are equally important, and you know you exist for sure. So instead of devoting energy to something that might or might not exist, and ultimately has no more right to exist than you do, you could try devoting that same energy to self-improvement. Maybe all that "God" is boils down to just being a lot further down the developmental chain than you currently. Maybe to truly understand divinity, one must become divine inside.

John Dishwasher

I like that idea of the potential divine in humans. There are people who accept this as a truth and spend their whole lives trying to achieve it.

Roscoe

The Vedas explain that there are around eight million four hundred thousand different kinds of bodies we can be born into. The human form gives us a chance to transcend this world of birth and death. If, however, I cultivate animalistic desires, then I increase the likelihood that I will be caught up in the repeating cycle of birth and death and not understand my true spiritual nature as an eternal being.

Suaarem

Any description of 'God' (the Absolute described through the Relative) could only end in vanity. Yet still a try: 'pure' consciousness ( = beyond the conditioned and conditioning limitations of space-time-ego). The 'world' (= perception-interpretation-connection of humans) exists, where the conditioned space-time-ego-consciousness has 'gaps' (= misinterpretations). Once the gaps are closed the consciousness is 'pure' (= beyond space-time). To 'create' God has to 'forget' 'himself' (at least partly). This forgotten parts of the universal consciousness are the 'egos' captured in space-time, until they return to God (= pure consciousness).

The sense of the game?

Me don't know!

My guess: it's a lot of fun.

Cyrill

While I'm not sure there's a lot of point trying to come up with an exact count on the kinds of possible bodies, the amount of possible genetic variations in this reality is incredible. Probably more like billions of options just for sentient life, and even more for insect and plant life. I think a being would have to be pretty lost though to end up as an insect.

I agree though that the desires and behaviors you cultivate are what you yield. It's like getting in a boat, but then after a while you start thinking that you are the boat.